The Sad Tale of the City of Königsberg

This site is about a conveniently forgotten part of  relatively recent  European history which bears repeating every so often lest we forget  how stupid, cruel and inhumane we can be to our fellow human beings.  While researching the appalling act of ethnic cleansing perpetrated by the Soviet Dictator  Josef Stalin – and aided and abetted  by Harry Truman and Winston Churchill at the end of WWII -  I came across the tragic fate of the historic and once thriving German city of Königsberg.  Overrun by the Soviet Red Army in early 1945 and essentially given to the Soviet Union by the Allied forces because Stalin wanted a year-round ice-free harbour – and renamed to Kaliningrad in 1945 - it is located within a small section of Russian territory known as the Oblast or region of Kaliningrad,  lying on the coast of the Baltic Sea. It is disconnected from the main bulk of the Russian land mass by Poland in the south,  and by Lithuania to its North and East.

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Prior to 1945 Königsberg was the cultural and economic centre in the German province of East Prussia, a region that was then cut off from the main part of Germany by a narrow strip of Polish territory and the city state of Danzig (now the Polish port of Gdansk). It was the dispute over this narrow piece of Polish land that gave Hitler the excuse to invade Poland in 1939, sparking off WWII.

Province of East Prussia

The origins of Königsberg date back to a massive castle by the same name built in 1255 by the knights of the Teutonic order in the course of their expansion in the Baltic region. During the 1286-1327 period the three settlements which had formed round the castle of Konigsberg (Altstadt, Lobenicht and Kneiphof) were granted the status of towns. In 1724, they officially merged into the city of Königsberg.

kb-castle-1940The historical center of the city with an architecture characteristic of the period was formed in the late Middle Ages. Its symbols were the King’s Castle (mid-13th century), and the Cathedral Church (14th century). Altogether, there are some 730 historical and cultural monuments in the city which up to 1939 had a population of  around 350,000. For centuries, Königsberg was the metropolis of eastern Germany. The city played an important role in Europe’s international relations and became a meeting point of diverse historical and cultural traditions, as well as the home for people of various nationalities and religious beliefs.

Konigsberg Castle

Königsberg Castle

Thus, the Huguenot settlers (French Protestants) set up many enterprises and whole industries there. Poles, Lithuanians, English and Dutch; merchants from every European country; artisans and learned men of every nationality not only coexisted peacefully: they also respected each other and together they built up their city. They helped form the world’s first Protestant state (1525) named the Duchy of Prussia with Königsberg as its capital.

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On several occasions Königsberg found itself in the epicentre of major European conflicts: the Seven-Year War (1756-1763), the Napoleonic wars (1805-1807 and 1812-1814), the First World War (1914-1918) and the Second World War (1939-1945) Founded in 1544, the University of Königsberg became the center of attraction for men of science and culture from Poland and Lithuania. Immanuel Kant (1724-1804), the great philosopher, lived and worked here. It was in that city that the first-ever books were printed in Lithuanian.

Kneiphof Island with Dom, Synagogue at Left - 1937

Kneiphof Island with Dom, Synagogue at Left - 1937

Arts and commerce flourished here. Grand merchant houses, banking offices, palaces and opera houses were erected in the city center, around the reddish Gothic Cathedral on Kneiphof Island.

Konigsberg City Centre around 1938

Königsberg City Centre around 1938

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View from Castle Tower

Dom, with Synagogue in the Distance

Dom, with Synagogue in the Distance

Altstad Fishmarket

Altstad Fishmarket

Government Buildings

Government Buildings

Financial District

Financial District

Technology House

Technology House

South Station

South Station

New Louisen Drama Theatre

New Louisen Drama Theatre

Alhambra Theater

Alhambra Theater

Albertina University

Albertina University

Inner Harbour

Inner Harbour

Pregel Harbour Scene

Pregel Harbour Scene

Warehouse District

Warehouse District

Gesekus Square

Gesekus Square

Rosengarten Square

Rosengarten Square

City Square

City Square

City Park

Konigsgarten Park with Friedrich Wilhelm III Statue

City Scape

City Scape

City View

City View

City View

Paradeplatz (Parade Square)

City Hall

City Hall

Castlepond Bridge

Castlepond Bridge

Stock Exchange

Stock Exchange

Steindamm

Steindamm

City View

City View

City View

City View

Residential Street

Residential Street

City View

City View

Newmarket

Newmarket

Zoo Pavilion

Zoo Pavilion

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"Ostmesse" Exhibition Grounds

Castle Pond View

Castle Pond View

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Wrangle Tower

Arthur "Bomber" Harris

Arthur "Bomber" Harris

However, as a result of WWII, neither Königsberg nor East Prussia exist anymore.  The city’s historic centre had been fire-bombed into near oblivion by Arthur “Bomber” Harris and the RAF in August of 1944.  Occasionally bombed by the Soviet Air Forces, No. 5 Group of the Royal Air Force first attacked the city on the night of 26/27 August 1944. The raid was in the extreme range for the 174 Avro Lancasters that flew 950 miles from their bases to bomb the city.

Three nights later on the 29/30 August, a further 189 Lancasters of No. 5 Group tried the target again dropping 480 tons of bombs on the centre of the city. Bomber Command estimated that 20% of all the industry and 41% of all the housing in Königsberg was destroyed in the attack.  Further destruction was brought about during the 3 month siege of Königsberg by the Soviet Red Army in early 1945 and which ended on April 9 with the surrender of the local German army.

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Konigsberg - 1944

The historic city center, consisting of the quarters Altstadt, Löbenicht and Kneiphof was in fact completely destroyed, among it the Dom cathedral, the castle, all churches of the city, the old and the new university.

City Centre and Dom - 1949

City Centre and Dom - 1949

Out of Königsberg’s prewar population of  approximately 350,000 Germans 42,000 died during the war while many had fled elsewhere to escape the fighting.  Precise numbers are hard to come by, but perhaps as many as 100,000  survived the aerial onslaught of 1944, only to be held as virtual prisoners within their own city by the Red Army while enduring tremendous suffering until they were expelled 500 km westward across Poland to Germany between 1949 and 1950 as part of  Stalin’s ethnic cleansing project to remove every German from former Nazi territory that was now part of the Soviet communist empire.

While many other German cities suffered similar fates in WWII, being nearly bombed into oblivion, thousands of its citizens killed (Dresden and Hamburg come to mind) the situation at Königsberg deserves special mention.

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Kneiphof Island with Dom Church in 1940

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Königsberg with Kneiphof Island and Dom at Centre - 2006

Over the years much of Hamburg and Dresden has been rebuilt, with many of the destroyed significant landmarks being restored to their prewar condition. As recently as 2005 the historically significant Frauenkirche in Dresden was re-consecrated in its restored state after having been essentially destroyed in the war.

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Konigsberg Castle - 1949

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Demolished in 1968

When the Soviets took possession of the devastated city in 1945, they took a different approach. They simply bulldozed the remains of most of the bombed out buildings and trucked away the rubble – shipping still usable building materials back to mother Russia,  thus eliminating all possibility of their eventual restoration, while leaving some standing in their bombed-out condition until as recent as 2005.

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Kreuz Apotheke Building around 2002

Given that all of the areas original German inhabitants had been expelled, there was no local opposition to this as Stalin had repopulated the city with people from all over the Soviet union, including from as far away as Siberia. As well, the city was now Soviet territory and – behind the Iron Curtain – essentially closed to all foreign eyes because Stalin was turning it in to a naval base, taking advantage of a newly acquired year-round ice free harbor with access to the Baltic sea.

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Street Car along Soviet Prospect - Kaliningrad 1950

It was not until the dissolution of the Soviet Union, that the region has come out from behind the iron curtain to fend for itself and make a better life for its citizens. In the process, some of the remains of the old city of Königsberg have been restored to a semblance of their original state,  adding a bit more interest to the local post-war Soviet architecture which – in typical Stalin fashion – consists of the usual rows of dreadfully drab apartment blocks meant for the communist worker bee with only the bottle of vodka to look forward to at the end of yet another dreary day in their worker’s paradise.

kb_dom_beforeafterIn particular, the iconic Dom church on Kneiphof Island, which was still a ruin in 1990 has been largely restored with the help of German money and now looks very close to its original. Also, Kaliningrad acknowledged its link with the past by celebrating the 750 year anniversary of Königsberg / Kaliningrad in 2005. Towards this occasion, other bombed-out buildings have been restored to some degree, and more are slated for restoration based on the availability of funds.

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Kaliningrad City Day Gathering before Restored Dom - 1999

The City of Königsberg is part of history now, and its tragic fate already largely forgotten if not ignored.  Yet today, and every year, many German expellees originally from that  ill-fated city and surrounding area undertake a trek back to their former homeland to look for that which was forever taken from them: their place of birth and the neighbourhoods and communities they grew up in. These are the things by which most of us are able to define ourselves, at least initially – and from which we build ourselves as individuals as we grow up, regardless of where we eventually end up,  geographically,  socially, economically or culturally.  Often referred to as “homesickness-tourism”,  it  finds now mostly aging people looking for their cultural and ancestral roots so brutally ripped out from underneath them after hundreds of years of settlement in East Prussia.  Here, the worst kind nostalgia reigns: they find themselves in a present with little or no  continuity with the past to latch on to, and putting into question the very memories they have of it and themselves being nurtured by it.   No doubt some will say that this is the price you pay for having been part of a warring nation – at least you were able to escape with your lives!  To this I would say: well, yes, but they only got away with part of their lives, as one part of it was violently amputated when their city was incinerated by the RAF and the  charred remains  handed to the Soviet Union for  ethnic cleansing and final disposal by the demonic Joseph Stalin.

    • Roland
    • August 1st, 2009

    This is truly a sad story and one I have encountered many times in my studies. Thank you for the photographs of a once magnificent city.

    • J.Z. Holden
    • August 31st, 2009

    Thank you for these lovely photographs. It is tragic to have to be part of history during “interesting” times. Let us keep in mind that “ethnic cleansing,” although praticed “unofficially” throughout Germany, Eastern Europe and Russia on a regular basis long prior to 1933, reached unheard of heights during WWII, instituted by the Nazi Regime and the Final Solution. Had Germany not had the collective dream of Aryan world domination, the precious city of Konigsberg might have remained untouched. It is called Karma. What goes around, comes around.

    • boohoo
    • September 28th, 2009

    Yes, it’s a shame that so many German cultural buildings were destroyed and so many civilians killed…but how many irreplaceable cultural artifacts and how many beautiful cities were destroyed by the Germans? And how many civilians (especially Slavs, who were seen as untermenschen) displaced/shot/bombed/gassed/starved? A thousandfold more.

    • admin
    • September 28th, 2009

    So, one bad deed deserves another? I guess that is how Bomber Harris looked at it. With relish, I may add. But if it was bad for Jerry to fly over to to England and try and bomb women and children in their beds at night, it is bad everywhere and for for all times, and hence equally bad for Harris and the RAF to to the same thing elsewhere in reprisal. Targeting civilian populations for destruction is a despicable and barbaric act – and nowadays the trade of card-carrying Taliban and other religious idiots and political fanatics around the world.

    I think it is a mistake, though, to identify a regime such as the NAZI scum with the local German population, and treat them as if they were the same entity. And while it is true that the severely deranged and maniacal Hitler had a lot of support at home, the true extent of the opposition at home will never been known because – between the brown-shirted bullies marching through the streets in their hobnail boots and that sinister gang of killers know as the Gestapo – it was made damned sure no one would ever dare to speak out in public against him.

    • Helmuth von Lust
    • October 26th, 2009

    Thank you for telling our story.

    I was one of those ‘war children’ caught up in ‘Die Flucht aus Konigsberg’. I cannot remember the city before the bombs very much but I can never forget the summer of 1944 and the terrible months afterwards. I saw my family and friends killed one by one. It is too terrible to describe. I was just 6 years old.

    The Russians pushed us ever westwards. If they caught us it would mean certain death. When we reached Berlin we thought we were safe. But then it happened all over again. I was alone on the streets. My family was dead. After the fighting stopped the soldiers gave us some bread and told us to leave. Our people were not welcome to stay in Berlin – that is something you do not mention. No one was allowed to give us shelter – even kids like me. Us Baltic Prussians were driven out by the Germans from Berlin – I can never forget this.
    I became a refugee and finished up in England. There I was beaten in the streets and my face was pushed in the gutter because I was German. The other children would urinate on me. I can never forget this either.
    Today I have no blood family, no homeland, no culture. My childhood was a nightmare. I have my memories – but I wish I hadn’t.
    What did I do to deserve this?
    And there are tens of thousands of us left like this. But no one cares.

    • Chris Walker
    • October 31st, 2009

    More Germans died as a result of WW2 than any other people. Although ‘only’ 6-8 million died during the war, around double that number were killed afterwards by deliberate allied policies.

    Infant mortality in 1946 was about 650/1000 and the food ration for each person was about 1100 calories per day.

    Here in England they do not tell us these things at school. If the Germans are supposed to be ashamed of their conduct in WW2, the allies should be too.

    • Jan Schultheiss
    • December 24th, 2009

    For those who read German I can rcommend Hans-Burkhard Sumowski, “Jetzt war ich ganz allein auf der Welt”, Erinnerungen an eine Kindheit in Königsberg 1944-1947 (München 2009 – ISBN 978-3-442-73955-4). I just bought it and it covers the atrocities that Helmuth von Lust refers to (and suffered himself as well), except that the writer of the book at least finds his father back after the war. It’s almost Christmas 2009 – the feast of peace. But almost 65 years after the fall of Königsberg we, human beings, still haven’t learned and things like this still happen. Every day. On our world.

    • Greg
    • January 14th, 2010

    The war crimes of Bomber Harris are not only justified but celebrated by the British people and Queen Elizabeth II (note her dedication of a statue to Bomber Harris). Granted, we all condemn the evils of Naziism. But the deliberate destruction of German cultural history and cities like Konigsberg by Harris is not only shameful it is evil, motiviated by hatred of German culture that had nothing whatever to do with Naziism. And particularly the Prussian cultural ethos was hated, sterotyped into the “Junker”. despite the fact that East Prussians led the opposition to Hitler. That is why Brezhnev razed the restorable remains of the Konigsberg Castle in the 1960s. to extirpate all remains of Prussian history.

    Bomber Harris was an evil, malicious soul, not looking for industrial targets to cripple German industry but to destroy all vestiges of German culture. Churchill acquiesed in all of this. And the wily Stalin turned out to be the rapacious winner, along with Poland.

    I’m sure in Hell, Hitler, Stalin and Bomber Harris must all comfort one another by justifying their evil deeds. Evil is not extinguished by more evil, it is fostered and energized. That is the legacy of Bomber Harris.

    • admin
    • January 14th, 2010

    Yes, Arthur “Bomber” Harris was a nasty character – no argument from me! – for taking all too much pleasure in the deliberate destruction of cultural and civilian targets. The first deliberate mass bombing of a historic city was the Royal Air Force attack which incinerated over 80 per cent of the timberbuilt Hanseatic old town of Lubeck on Palm Sunday, 28 March 1942. This attack was launched purely as an experiment, to test whether bombing timberframed buildings could start an inferno large enough to be used as an easy aiming point for later waves of bombers. Harris is on record to have said: “I wanted my crews to be well blooded, as they say in fox hunting, to have a taste of success for a change”.

    Subsequently, in May 1942, in Operation Millennium, over 1,000 bombers rained incendiaries on Cologne, predictably using the Cathedral and the Old Town as their aiming point, and destroyed over 13,000 houses. In July 1943, in ‘Operation Gomorrah’ – the name itself says a lot – the week-long fire raid on Hamburg, over one-third of all buildings in the city were destroyed, including most of the historic centre and its churches, and the university library with its 800,000 volumes.

    But – please! – do not make the mistake of tarring all the British people with the same brush – that would be just as unfair as tarring all the German people with the evil Nazi brush. There was plenty of opposition by those who knew what Harris was doing over Germany. After the war, Harris was the sole commander-in-chief not made a peer in 1946. Bomber Command’s crews were denied a separate campaign medal (despite being eligible for the Air Crew Europe Star and France and Germany Star) and, in protest at this establishment snub to his men, Harris refused a peerage. Disappointed by the criticisms of his methods, Harris moved to South Africa in 1948 and didn’t return until 1953 when he was offered and accepted a baronetcy. And here is one several examples of public opposition to the bombing of of civilian targets during WW II:

    Hansard Excerpt

    • brightonian
    • January 25th, 2010

    In any war the imperative priority is to ‘win’. Bomber Harris was doing what he was ordered to do by Churchill and the other political leaders in Britain during the Second World War. Harris’s brief was to carry the war to the civilian populations of Germany, to destroy its physical infrastructure, its industrial capacity and its ability to wage war effectively. Public opinion in Britain supported this for obvious reasons – don’t forget that Britain was under constant air attack by the Luftwaffe for virtually the entire period of the War and tens of thousands of innocent people were killed.

    Koinigsberg was a key German strategic position on the Eastern Front in 1944. It had to be captured to ensure defeat of the Reich, and in the event of course this is what the Red Army was able to do. But didn’t it make sense for the RAF to lend a helping hand with their bombers? Was not their constant pressure from Stalin, and from public opinion in Britain and elsewhere who saw the Red Army – ‘our gallant Soveit allies’ – as their saviour from the odious and appalling tyranny of Naziism, to assist this process, and what politician could resist their pleas?

    In hindsight, the allied bomber offensive against Germany in the War was a grotesque example of ‘overkill’. It did not significantly impact German war production until very late in the War. But hindsight is a luxury that was not available to allied strategists at the time – they simply had to do everything possible to defeat Germany because the consequences of an allied defeat wouild have involved unimaginable suffering for the people of Europe.

    I have been moved by many of the postings I have read and the sheer scale of the suffering inflicted by the RAF on the civilian populations of German cities, including Konigsberg, is abhorrent and evil. But war itself is evil and, as I have said, the overriding priority of any war is to ‘win’ it, especially if the foe is as repulsive as the one that wrought havoc on so many peoples’s lives after 1939?

    • Alan W
    • February 5th, 2010

    Thank you for putting all this together, fantastic insight in to what happened. My mother lived in Königsberg during this period and has just been telling me how she survived the horrors. She eventually escaped with her parents and sister on the 31 Jan 1945, they were one of the last ones to get a ship out of there.

    • admin
    • February 7th, 2010

    For a rare glimps of pre WWII Konigsberg, see this YouTube link:
    Konigsberg Video

    • ronnie wallace
    • February 24th, 2010

    Our mother and family escaped from the ruins of Konigsberg and was persuaded by her mother not to board the Wilhelm Gustloff ship. The ship was sunk by a Russian sub; they passed the wreckage 2 days later.

    (Admin added: The Wilhelm Gustloff’s final voyage was during Operation Hannibal in January 1945, when it was sunk while participating in the evacuation of civilians and personnel who were surrounded by the Red Army in East Prussia. The Gustloff was hit by three torpedoes from the Soviet submarine S-13 in the Baltic Sea on the night of 30 January 1945 and sank in less than 45 minutes. An estimated 9,400 people were killed in the sinking.If accurate, this would be the largest known loss of life occurring during a single ship sinking in recorded maritime history. – More at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Wilhelm_Gustloff )

    • Bernhard
    • March 2nd, 2010

    @Alan W
    Canitz, thank you, this is a priceless site.
    Alan, Ronnie W., (or any others who wish to make contact), my mother also grew up in Konigsberg and was forced to flee from the russians….write to me at shakeahand@yahoo.com
    title (Konigsberg)
    Bernhard
    PS Helmuth Von Lust, I too grew up in England and experienced a similar fate.

    • Trish
    • April 1st, 2010

    Thank you for this story. I came across it because I am researching my fiances family tree. His whole family lived in Konigsberg, Germany. He knows nothing about them other than names and trying to find information on them seems impossible. With all the destruction during the war its no wonder no records are available today. What a shame. It was a beautiful city.

    • Stephen
    • April 25th, 2010

    Thank you for this wonderful site. My family is about equally divided of English and German descent and I can understand the sentiments of both sides regarding the bombing and destruction. It’s only of late that I’ve become more aware of and interested in the beautiful city of Konigsberg and the region of East Prussia. As someone mentioned, YouTube has many videos of the old city, but also try Flickr for many beautiful old pictures.
    Again, thank you.

  1. My wife (at the tim was 8yrs old) and her mother, grandmother and brother (age 5 at the time) escaped the Russians during operation Hannibal in Jan 1945. They were abe to make it to Okesboel Dennmark refugee camp until the end of the war.

    Helga (Wershun) Nolden seeks other refugees from Konigsberg and from Oksboel Denmark and like to share experiences. You can reach Helga at the email above. She has also published her story and a photo review of the book can be found at the URS link above.

    Thank you for presenting this forum. We really do enjoy it

    HARLEY & HELGS (WERSCHUN) NOLDEN

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  4. Das ist in Ordnung, keine Bildquellen zu hinweisen?

    beste Gruesse,
    Max Popov

    • Viktor Pilarski
    • August 9th, 2010

    It looks that the heart touching nostalgia’s wave above somehow omitted an integral part of Konigsberg’s history of destruction. Let’s ponder about that destruction – when did it actually begin? Wasn’t it in the night between the 10nh to 11nh of november 1938, when dedicated and loyal citizens of Konigsberg burnt to ashes the New Synagogue of Konigsberg? Or maybe it was when those citizens diligently burnt down the other three synagogues of Konigsberg? And when exactly began the death toll among and the expulsion of the inhabitants of the city of Konigsberg and the loot of their property? Wasn’t it when the same dedicated, loyal and diligent citizens of Konigsberg began the arrests, imprisons, throwing orphans to the streets, looting and deportations of other citizens of their city who just happened to be Jews?
    A fake burst of emotion is called in Hebrew “crocodile tears” – when the predator burst in tears a moment after the kill, in memory of the victim. In our case, the predator did more than that – he even forgot his prey.

    • admin
    • August 10th, 2010

    @Max Popov
    Max is right, of course. Strictly speaking, if you own a photograph, it would not be right for someone else to use it either without your permission or without crediting you as the source of it. Wikipedia, for example, is absolutely maniacal about that, unless the photographs are in the public domain.

    I cannot claim ownership to any of the Konigsberg photographs used on this site – I have collected them over a few years by searching for them on the internet. And in regards to my use of them on this site, I’m of two minds of this being right or wrong. I believe these photos belong to everyone who once called Konigsberg home, and to those who it was taken from in terms of cultural heritage, and – last but not least – to those who have taken an interest in preserving the memory of a once beautiful and thriving city in eastern Europe and the tragic tale of its eventual destruction at the end of WWII. There is no profit motive involved here – this site is actually costing me money.

    If it is important to anyone to be given credit for these photograps, I will do so. Simply submit your details to me via this site and how you acquired the copyright to any of the photographs above, and I will add that information to the site.

    • admin
    • August 10th, 2010

    @Viktor Pilarski
    True, very few of the synagogues across Germany survived the infamous Kristallnacht of November 1938, and the beautiful New Synagogue on the Lindenstrasse at Konigsberg was no exception. Today, only the part that housed the Jewish Orphanage still exists on that spot. A night of infamy by any other name and the start of far, far worse to come for anyone who happened to be a member of the Jewish faith as it marked the start of the Holocaust.

    So who are we to blame for this: all the Germans who were alive at the time, or mainly the NAZI scum who orchestrated this dark and ugly period in German history. I continue to believe that it is unfair to paint everyone with the same brush. A logical falacy lies at the bottom this, and it goes as follows:

    Hitler is evil
    Hitler is a German
    Therefore, all Germans are evil.

    Also, the significance of Konigsberg should not be reduced to period that the psychopat Hitler was in charge of Germany – its considerable history and cultural contributions deserve much better than that, and so do the people that lived and worked there over the centuries. It is their legacy and rightful place in European history that this site is all about.

  5. First of all, thank you for hosting and bringing this history of the city of Koningsberg to the public. What a beautiful city it seems to have been.

    Then, a question to anyone who fled this city as civilian and went to Berlin in the late days of the German Reich. Because I’m working on a manuscript, and I’m in the beginning phase of putting a work plan schedule on the concept of bringing the civil history of Prussian people who fled East Prussia in the last days and months of the WWII.

    I hope I won’t be misunderstood. My grandfather on my mothers side, faced almost 3 years in German prison camps due to his resistance of the occupant Germany in Norway, and was a survivor until he passed away in 1972 of a heartattack. So I have been brought up on mainly stories of the “triumphanting and glorius victory” of the Allied forces of WWII.He was a barber in Sachsenhausen, Buchenwald and Nazwieler, and I’m also told he saved several people from execution by hiding them under the floors of the barrack where he was forced to work.

    My main aim is to try to show that there were also great suffering and losses on BOTH sides of the war and when we attack or condemn war as an evil, we have to know that the ones who really suffers in war are almost always those who didn’t wanted it, and often women and children. And if the mindset and hearts, and the human condition has changed since 1946, I would like to find that out on my own through my work on a doc. to show the other side of the so-called victory of the sheeple mankind. Maybe this is only a small contribution to a near future to end all wars. Perhaps a naive thought, but as long as I live I like to give it a try, my way.

    So the message has been sent :-)

    Because a major factor today is the way we communicate (internet), whatever faith, belief-system, nation or political view we stick to. My suggestion is that internet might be a future peace-keeper and cultural tool for building frindship cross borders of the other acpects of life.

    Thank you for listening in, and once again thanks for the this website.
    (edited for brevity, relevance, and to take out some language possibly produced by translating software – Admin)

    • Viktor Pilarski
    • August 11th, 2010

    @admin

    I suggest a little different “fallacy”:
    Hitler was evil.
    Hitler was an admired hero, a leader and an idol for the great majority of Germans for 12 years till his death.
    The first and only significant attempt to overthrow Hitler by his countryman was made only after the beginning of Germany’s decline and by no means because the perpetrators lost their faith in Nazi ideology or became suddenly humanity lovers.
    German’s remorse on German’s deeds in WW2 began only after Germany’s defeat, not a moment earlier.
    Therefore most of the Germans were evil, or collaborated happily with evil.
    Does the above still look as a fallacy?

    Your description of Hitler as a psychopath suggest that millions Germans and other Europeans accidentally and suddenly began to murder Jews and plunder their property with fanatic zeal just because some psychopath told them to so. Well, it doesn’t sound convincing. More convincing is the explanation that Hitler only released the suppressed demons that were integral part of Europe’s history for very long centuries. Those demons never really disappear, including today. They only wait till their next occasion.

    As to the cultural legacy you mention – what is it worth if so many individuals, who were the main bearers of the same cultural legacy, were neither human nor brave enough to even try to oppose those scums you mention and preferred to cheer them?
    It reminds me an argument in a defense of Poles of a Polish friend of mine, after he recognized the persecution of Jewish survivors in Poland after the Holocaust (which prevented any chance of reviving a Jewish life there): “One event cannot wipe out centuries of common blooming history of Poles and Jews in Poland”.
    To me it sound like a of a man who killed his wife and children, who’s defense claim is: “One incident cannot hide all those our happy years of marriage…” Well, actually and unfortunately, it can.

    • admin
    • August 13th, 2010

    Well, Victor, clearly your mind is made up on much of this and I have neither the time or inclination to try and change it. But I do want to say the following:

    Regarding Hitler’s rise to power and popularity in pre-WWII Germany, you may want to read up on the conditions in Europe and Germany when he came to power and perhaps understand how the WWI War Reparations act as set out under the Treaty of Versailles had a created a political and social-economic climate in Germany that was ripe for someone like Hitler to take advantage of for his own evil visions. Together with his incredibly effective propaganda machine under the directions of the sinister Josef Goebbels he found a willing and eager people that could just about be manipulated in any given direction so long as it provided a way out of the sewer hole that the rest of Europe had condemned them to, and that featured such things as hyper-inflation at the rate of 4 trillion German marks to 1 US dollar. None of this justifies the ensuing conquest of Europe and the persecution of the Jews of course, but it goes a long way towards an explanation of how a nation can be dragged down by a malevolent leadership into a realm which leads straight to hell.

    The German people paid heavily for WWII, in particular those in Eastern Germany and Prussia. Before they fell prey to the ethnic cleansing policies of Joe Stalin – an even bigger mass-murderer than AH – around 5 million people were forced to flee almost immediately when the Soviet red army advanced into East Prussia in October 1944. This occurred in the manner of a viscous barbaric horde bent on revenging the millions of Russians casualties of WWII, including the nearly two million dead from the battle of Stalingrad. And this was also a particularly good time if you were a sex-starved soldier-slave of a brutal communist regime. Rape, in particular, was the highlight on the pillager’s menu. Alexander Solzhenitsyn, then a young captain in the Red Army, described the entry of his regiment into East Prussia in January 1945 as follows: “For three weeks the war had been going on inside Germany, and all of us knew very well that if the girls were German they could be raped and then shot. This was almost a combat distinction.”

    As well, at the Potsdam Conference in 1945 Truman and Churchill allowed Stalin to keep that part of Poland that he had stolen earlier via the secret “non-aggression” Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact with Hitler and that divided Poland between them. To compensate Poland for this loss – a criminal act by any other name – the German provinces of Silesia and Pomerania and the southern part of East Prussia were incorporated into Poland. These lands were to be cleansed of Germans, with the result that around 13 million Germans were expelled from their former homelands between 1945 and 1949, including three million Germans from the Sudetenland in Czechoslovakia. In addition, Stalin was allowed to expel around two million Poles from their homelands after the Soviets took formal possession of them behind the so-called Curzon line. And so the West stood by and facilitated the ethnic cleansing of 13 million Germans from their homes and lands that they had inhabited for centuries. While an agreement had been reached to allow for an “orderly and humane repatriation” of Germans from their former homelands, this didn’t quite work out that way! Roughly 1.2 million did not survive the forced but unassisted trek west across their now former homelands and through Polish territory to the relative safety of Allied-occupied German territory on the other side of the Neisse river. The survivors – typically not the very old or the very young – and mostly ordinary farm folk who had done nothing more than toil ceaselessly for a living from dusk to dawn their entire lives – told of months and weeks of incredible suffering along the way during which time they were habitually beaten, robbed of the few possessions they had, the women raped repeatedly. Thousands of expellees committed suicide, not able to take any more of it.

    And so there are some who will say that Germany and its people got its just rewards – the destruction of Konigsberg and its citizenry being one example – in return for the incredible evil inflicted by its Nazi leadership for causing the death of countless millions of innocent people across the European continent. But, surely, it has and will always be wrong to kill or otherwise destroy the livelihood and homes of innocent people simple because of where they live or who they are governed by. The great 20th century humanitarian Albert Schweitzer, in his speech accepting the Noble Peace Prize in Oslo in 1954, said:

    ”The most grievous violation of the right based on historical evolution and of any human right in general is to deprive populations of the right to occupy the country where they live by compelling them to settle elsewhere. The fact that the victorious powers decided at the end of WWII to impose this fate on hundreds of thousands of human beings and, what is more, in a most cruel manner, show how little they were aware of the challenge facing them, namely, to re-establish prosperity and, as far as possible, the rule of law”.

    • Chris
    • August 27th, 2010

    @Trish My father fled Konigsberg as a child during WWII. Im curious… how have you been going about researching your fiance’s family tree?

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